never twain shall meet

i have been reading some ongoing dialogue between to completely opposing view concerning scripture on another blog.



not sure if they could be considered right or left wing stuff, but the chasm between the 2 is huge.



with such a diverse view of what scripture is and what it is not, it amazes me on what is left out of the discussion. in this case, it is god and his judgement on sin, or his lack of judgement on sin, and what sin is for that matter.

basically it turns into a denominational thing.



it could be said that one view is the traditional view and the other the more modern view, but it goes much deeper than that.



as i read, i detect a kind of pity and sometimes arrogance and disdain between the two for each other. maybe it is just me.



there has been lots said on the subject. but to quote another "with all this talk about forgiveness, what happened to holiness?"



true enough.



with all the discussion on what the bible is or is not, there has to be agreement on the intention. direction from God on who he is and how we should live in light of that.



but alas, when we cannot agree on the whole of scripture as being applicable to our lives, when we can pick and choose over one text verses another, then how can we agree on it's impact?



we try and start on a common ground in order to have civil discussions and dialogue. but there can be none of that in this case. i am usually right in the middle of such talk, but it has been interesting to be on the sidelines and watch how things unfold.



love has taken the place of the demands of scripture on repentance and unholiness.

acceptance of various lifestyles seen one way by some and another way by others can no longer be seen as sin, but as differing views on sex.

it has gone as far as one saying that all that matters is the words of Jesus. the rest of the bible is not important.



the others view.



sin is sin and will be judged by God, whether you believe it or not.

the whole bible is God's word. therefore, all that is said about lifestyles must be seen as how it is...still. God is a righteous judge.

read it here. http://www.newlifeemerging.blogspot.com/

i have been known to put on the bible what the bible does not demand of itself. bible nazi might describe it best. while i do relax my views somewhat on certain things concerning scripture, i am convinced of several things.

it is what it is...the word of God.
we do not have the luxury to choose what to believe and not based on our preference of who we may think god is or is not.
it is a wonder, and helpful in our daily lives.
it is amazing that we have such a book.

some look at the bible in a way that honors God and his holiness and judgement toward sin, others look at it in ways that honor God for his love and lack of judgement.

one will not get the other to buy into his way of thinking.